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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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| 0000081 | 1003.1(2008)/Issue 7 | Base Definitions and Headers | public | 2009-06-29 09:40 | 2009-10-09 16:57 |
| Reporter | geoffclare | Assigned To | ajosey | ||
| Priority | normal | Severity | Objection | Type | Clarification Requested |
| Status | Interpretation Required | Resolution | Accepted As Marked | ||
| Name | Petr Baudis | ||||
| Organization | SUSE Labs / Novell | ||||
| User Reference | |||||
| Section | LC_TIME | ||||
| Page Number | 159 | ||||
| Line Number | 4921 | ||||
| Interp Status | Approved | ||||
| Final Accepted Text | 0000081:0000133 | ||||
| Summary | 0000081: am_pm value in locales that do not distinguish between am and pm | ||||
| Description | OBJECTION Enhancement Request Number 4 pasky:xxxxxxx Defect in XBD LC_TIME (rdvk# 1) {0} Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:13:07 GMT _____________________________________________________________________________ http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/basedefs/V1_chap07.html#tag_07_03_05 : The am_pm description says that it shall "define the appropriate representation of the ante-meridiem and post-meridiem strings, corresponding to the %p conversion specification." However, it is not clear what the appropriate representation should be, in locales that do not distinguish between am and pm. Currently, it seems OpenSolaris and OpenBSD have AM;PM here even for locales with no am/pm convention while glibc tries to have empty strings here if am/pm is not distinguished within the locale. Currently, there is a "silent dispute" going on between Ulrich Drepper and GNOME developers on what the am_pm value should be. It would be nice to have this clarified in the standard so that application programmers can find reliable values here. | ||||
| Desired Action | The am_pm description should be clarified on what should the content be for locales not distinguishing between AM/PM, or whether that is implementation-defined. | ||||
| Tags | No tags attached. | ||||
| related to | 0001307 | Closed | 1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 | am_pm value in locales that do not distinguish between am and pm (again) |
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Interpretation response ------------------------ The standard does not speak to this issue, and as such no conformance distinction can be made between alternative implementations based on this. This is being referred to the sponsor. Rationale: ------------- It was noted that if t_fmt_ampm is an empty string, then applications should not use the value of am_pm. Notes to the Editor (not part of this interpretation): ------------------------------------------------------- Consider as a revision for a future edition, requiring that am_pm be empty if t_fmt_ampm is an emptry string This would also need to be noted in the APPLICATION USAGE of related utilities/functions. |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2009-06-29 09:40 | geoffclare | New Issue | |
| 2009-06-29 09:40 | geoffclare | Status | New => Under Review |
| 2009-06-29 09:40 | geoffclare | Assigned To | => ajosey |
| 2009-06-29 09:40 | geoffclare | Name | => Geoff Clare |
| 2009-06-29 09:40 | geoffclare | Organization | => The Open Group |
| 2009-06-29 09:40 | geoffclare | Section | => LC_TIME |
| 2009-06-29 09:40 | geoffclare | Page Number | => 0 |
| 2009-06-29 09:40 | geoffclare | Line Number | => 0 |
| 2009-06-29 09:41 | geoffclare | Tag Attached: real bug in aardvark | |
| 2009-06-29 09:44 | geoffclare | Note Added: 0000133 | |
| 2009-06-29 09:44 | geoffclare | Status | Under Review => Interpretation Required |
| 2009-06-29 09:44 | geoffclare | Resolution | Open => Accepted As Marked |
| 2009-06-29 09:47 | geoffclare | Final Accepted Text | => Note: 0000133 |
| 2009-06-29 09:53 | geoffclare | Final Accepted Text | Note: 0000133 => 0000081:0000133 |
| 2009-06-29 09:54 | geoffclare | Tag Attached: needs page and line numbers | |
| 2009-07-02 18:02 | Don Cragun | Name | Geoff Clare => Petr Baudis |
| 2009-07-02 18:02 | Don Cragun | Organization | The Open Group => SUSE Labs / Novell |
| 2009-07-02 18:02 | Don Cragun | Page Number | 0 => 159 |
| 2009-07-02 18:02 | Don Cragun | Line Number | 0 => 4921 |
| 2009-07-02 18:02 | Don Cragun | Tag Detached: needs page and line numbers | |
| 2009-08-06 15:51 | Don Cragun | Tag Detached: real bug in aardvark | |
| 2009-08-11 16:34 | Don Cragun | Interp Status | => Pending |
| 2009-09-17 15:41 | nick | Interp Status | Pending => Proposed |
| 2009-10-09 16:56 | ajosey | Note Edited: 0000133 | |
| 2009-10-09 16:57 | ajosey | Interp Status | Proposed => Approved |
| 2010-09-20 09:22 | geoffclare | Tag Attached: issue8 | |
| 2019-12-18 15:36 | geoffclare | Relationship added | related to 0001307 |
| 2019-12-18 15:38 | geoffclare | Tag Detached: issue8 |
